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Murder Suspect in Custody; Queen Elizabeth Celebrates Diamond Jubilee, Discussion with Neal Boortz about His Future Plans; George Zimmerman's Attorneys Try to Free Him From Jail; Fugitive Canadian Porn Actor in Police Custody
Aired June 4, 2012 - 15:00 ET
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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: The man who's been called the Canadian psycho is in custody. Luka Rocco Magnotta was arrested today in Berlin, Germany. He was at an Internet cafe apparently looking at pictures of himself online. And that's when someone in the cafe noticed him, recognized him, bolted out of the cafe and called the police. Detectives in Montreal say they think that he's the one who stabbed and mutilated and mailed out body parts of his boyfriend, Jun Lin, seen here in this photo from CCTV.
Oh, and there's more as well. You're going to hear from Magnotta himself. CNN has uncovered a 2007 interview of Magnotta talking about being a stripper, about being an escort and about why the man the French press calls the butcher of Montreal says he is so popular and well-liked. In the video, he called himself Jimmy.
First, we want to take you live to the scene in Berlin where the arrest went down today.
And that's where CNN's Diana Magnay is right now standing by live.
I know that you have been able to get there in the last hour-and- a-half and collect some of the more recent details. Last we spoke in the last hour, you were getting the full story of how the arrest went down literally in the seats behind you.
DIANA MAGNAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, literally. He walked in here at about 11:30 this morning and it was actually the employee working behind the counter who recognized him.
He came in -- I have seen the CCTV footage -- wearing a bomber jacket, but otherwise not disguised in any way, had his sunglasses on, and apparently lifted up his sunglasses and said to the man behind the counter, monsieur, Internet.
And the man immediately recognized him or thought he did because his picture, his photo has been all over the news, obviously. And he then showed him up to this space here, number 25, and sat him down here. And he wasn't entirely sure whether it was him. He decided to check on the Internet himself, to cross-reference the photos that he had been seeing. He came up here a couple of times and he said that, when he came up, the man, Magnotta, was looking at stories about him online. And he went out -- the employee went out, tried to call the police, tried to flag down a police convoy which was passing, and brought them in and said, I think there's a man here who you want to speak to. It's the porno killer.
And the police came in here, talked to the man, talked to Magnotta, who apparently tried to give them a false name initially. Then, when he realized that the game was up, he said, OK, you have got me. No resistance at all and is now in police custody, so, a calm end to a really horrific crime, a grisly crime and an international manhunt ending up right here in this cafe.
BANFIELD: Diana, that just seems really remarkable given the amount of attention that people have said he craves. In fact, the profilers from the beginning of this case have said that he's a narcissist. And police in Montreal just about an hour ago actually made this comment about his tendency to look for attention. Have a listen.
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CMDR. IAN LAFRENIERE, MONTREAL POLICE: We said from the beginning, the Web had been used for him to glorify himself. And we believe that it's the Web that brought him down.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BANFIELD: The Web, as you said, he was seen surfing pictures of himself or at least browsing the story of the international manhunt.
So, Diana, quickly, do you think that the Berlin police had any idea that he was actually in their city, let alone their country? Because last we heard, he was being tracked by his cell phone in France.
MAGNAY: Last we heard, he was in France. And the police in France were following various sightings of him, that he had been in a cafe there, in a hotel, at a party, and, lastly, on Sunday a sighting that he had been in the railway station.
But we don't know from German police yet whether they had an indication that he'd already come to this country. And they're not giving that kind of detail out for now. And they said they don't know at this stage how he got here, whether it was train, whether it was by bus. But it really does seem to have been the sort of acuity of this employee here in this Internet cafe for spotting him that brought police to his attention finally, Ashleigh.
BANFIELD: Well, I think now you are on the extradition story to find out how, in fact, the Canadians are going to get this man back and how quickly they will get him back to face the first-degree murder charge.
Diana Magnay, thank you. Appreciate that. OK. So, moms do this all the time. They ask a teenager, a brother, a sister, somebody who's in their teens to watch over the younger kids, right? Now a Connecticut woman has been arrested after doing just that. When is it breaking the law to have a teenager baby- sit for you? The story is coming up.
BANFIELD: In one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Texas, police have made a shocking discovery. Take a look at the picture on your right and then that one as well.
It's a socialite. She's allegedly been swapping and collecting child pornography. CNN affiliate WFAA reports that police raided the home of 41-year-old Erika Perdue, finding a cache of traffic videos and photos of children on her computer.
CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin is "On the Case."
Sunny, the court documents say that this had been going on for 13 years and that she made some admissions here.
SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: She sure did. She admitted to swapping and collecting child pornography since 1999.
And I have to tell you, Ashleigh, what was so shocking to me is that she's a woman, actually, because I have prosecuted child sex crimes. I have worked with the FBI. And that's how the FBI found out about this, through file sharing. And that's one thing everybody should know. The FBI does watch.
And the FBI has a wonderful child porn unit.
BANFIELD: They can track it. And they can share with you and find out where you are and find out where your computer is.
HOSTIN: Absolutely. Absolutely. But what was shocking to me really is that statistically it is very rare for women to be involved in child porn.
It's something that we used to say at the Justice Department all the time. Just women and child porn, they just don't go together. And so it's counterintuitive, because women as mothers are usually very nurturing.
And it's just something that you don't see happen.
BANFIELD: But you know something? When I looked this up, I wanted to see the statists on it, because there was a comment that, well, sometimes money talks. And this is a $50 billion-a-year business and that women who do get into it get in a lot of times more for the money.
(CROSSTALK) HOSTIN: That's right. It is a $50 billion-a-year business. And sometimes I think it's even more because a lot of child porn is so underground. That's what my experience tells me.
So perhaps we don't know what her motive is or motives have been. But we do know that she's set for trial September this year, September 10, 2012.
BANFIELD: That's like a nanosecond from now.
HOSTIN: Yes. Yes. So it's something that I'm certainly going to be following because again this in my experience is very rare.
BANFIELD: Look, there's a defense for everything. But as I read through this, the facts as we know them, and let me tell you, the facts always change, this looks almost indefensible, the evidence that they have got.
HOSTIN: It does. And juries don't like child pornographers. And so will we see the trial?
Who knows? Because oftentimes, these things don't go to trial. They settle especially because our information is that she's given an admission -- a confession, rather. Other thing that was interesting, she lives in a multimillion-dollar mansion with her attorney husband, and the home is right across the street from a child playground.
BANFIELD: None of this equates. I just don't see defendants like this.
HOSTIN: No, no, it's very, very odd.
BANFIELD: And certainly in your storied history of doing this kind of work...
HOSTIN: Haven't seen it.
BANFIELD: Let me move on to another head-scratcher. I have two kids ages 5 and 6 and I have got loads of kids in my neighborhood who are all to eager to baby-sit. They have taken their baby-sitting license at age 12. They have done their...
BANFIELD: And then I hear about a Connecticut mother who was arrested for leaving her children at her home in the care of her 13- year-old son. A 4-year-old makes it out of the house, gets across the street. The neighbor says, this has happened before, I'm calling the police.
BANFIELD: What is the story here? Is this not legal to leave your kids in the care of a 12- or 13-year-old, especially a sibling?
HOSTIN: I never think it's a good idea. Whether or not it is legal depends on the facts of the case. She's been charged with felony risk to a child because the 4-year-old was just wandering outside.
BANFIELD: Hey, that's happened to me. And I like to think I'm a good mom. But you can't have your eyes at all times on two kids, especially when they have got crazy legs.
HOSTIN: Yes. That's true. And I'm a mom. I have a 9-year-old and a 6-year-old. But you cannot expect a 13-year-old to care for not one, not two, but three children, Ashleigh.
She apparently has a 13-year-old boy who was watching a 1-year- old, a 4-year-old and a 10-year-old. He had no idea that this 4-year- old had walked out. And the baby-sitter was supposed to show up at 2:00. She left to go to church at 1:30. So, for those 30 minutes, the children were left basically, in my view, unattended.
BANFIELD: Morals are different than law.
HOSTIN: Ashleigh, fires can happen. Someone can break into a home. You just cannot....
HOSTIN: ... 13 years old, not responsible for three children, I'm sorry.
BANFIELD: But there's no law on the books in Connecticut and other states as well stating what age your baby-sitter has to be?
HOSTIN: That's right.
BANFIELD: It's just dependent on what the baby-sitter is like?
HOSTIN: Well, I have got to tell you, I wouldn't leave my children with a 13-year-old.
BANFIELD: Some 13-year-olds are different than others.
HOSTIN: It's something that I don't do. I don't think it's the smart thing to do.
BANFIELD: Did you baby-sit at 13?
HOSTIN: I did not. And I don't think a 13-year-old can be responsible for a 1-year-old, a 4-year-old, and a 10-year-old.
BANFIELD: You are going to hate me. I baby-sit at 13 regularly.
HOSTIN: Yes, I think it's bad business...
HOSTIN: ... because I know how quickly things and you know how quickly things can happen to children.
BANFIELD: Do you know how long we could debate this topic?
HOSTIN: I'm sure I'm going to get tons of e-mail.
HOSTIN: And please send them to me, because I want to hear what people think about this.
BANFIELD: Sunny Hostin, rock star, as always. Thank you. Appreciate it.
BANFIELD: Prince Philip hospitalized. Queen's diamond jubilee is going ahead as planned. Happening now, a huge rock concert, all getting set to go live in London. We are going to take you there.
Just a quick note for those of you as well who are heading out the door. You can take me with you. No, you can take CNN with you. Really, I like to think I'm CNN, but right now, you can get take me with you. If you're heading to work, you can get your CNN signal on your mobile phone or on your desktop. Just go to CNN.com/TV. It's all there.
BANFIELD: London's big diamond jubilee party, what an event. It's under way.
But the event is missing a really important guest, one Prince Philip, the queen's consort. Her 90-year-old husband has been taken to the hospital. He is suffering a bladder infection. They wanted to check him out. And according to Buckingham Palace, he's going to stay there at least a couple of days too because they want to keep him under observation, make sure he's OK before they release him.
In the meantime, it turns out the band is just going to play on in a huge way, thousands of people all getting together for this incredible concert. Star-studded doesn't even begin to describe it. Everybody's celebrating 60 years of their majesty and her reign.
The end of the concert actually is going to be pretty cool because the queen herself is going to take to the stage and light the National Beacon.
My colleague, Atika Shubert, gets the best assignments.
I don't know if you got a ticket to get into that concert, my friend, but I would like to know the lowdown and when it's getting under way, because you're, what, around 8:00 or 9:00 in London, aren't you now, in London?
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. It's actually already under way already.
But, unfortunately, I don't have a ticket to the concert. And I'm too far away to actually hear all of the music that's going on. There are so many people between here and the actual concert that anybody behind hear unfortunately can't hear too much of it.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of people out for this concert today. And this concert is free. You have to get a ticket through a national lottery. That's how you actually get into the concert. It is an amazing event. All kinds of artists are there today, Tom Jones, Shirley Bassey, Elton John, Paul McCartney. So, it really is an amazing lineup.
But, as you point out, unfortunately, the duke of Edinburgh isn't there tonight to hear it and he will be missing tomorrow's celebrations as well, so a little bit of disappointment certainly from the royal family, but for also those who may have been expecting to see him as well.
BANFIELD: It's so disappointing, Atika, because I'm just looking at the pictures that were up beside you. And that was him on board that boat yesterday, the 210-foot beautiful boat that went down the Thames with, oh, I don't know, about a thousand of their closest boat friends.
And he looked like he was in absolutely fine form with his sons and his grandsons. And then this news sort of just sort of cast a small pall over everything. but will it change anything going forward in the celebrations?
SHUBERT: It won't change any of the schedule, clearly.
But it is a disappointment, as you point out. Keep in mind, he turns 91 in just a few weeks. And I think that, just to be on the safe side, they thought, if he is feeling a bit ill, let's keep him at the hospital, just watch over him. And yesterday, it was an amazing celebration, all of those boats going down the Thames. But it did mean that the queen and the duke were out in freezing, rainy weather for hours. So it really must have been hard on them. And so perhaps they felt, to be on the safe side, let's give him a rest today and see how it goes.
BANFIELD: Well, that's probably a good idea, although I have to be honest with you. I love the royals. I'm part of the commonwealth where I was born in Canada. So I just eat up that stuff. And all of the CNN reporting, one of the more interesting facts about the queen and Prince Philip were that she's considered within royal watchers to have very good legs, that she can get through these events that are long and he is just as spry.
I think she's like 86 or so. He's turning 91. So, let's wish them good health. And in the meantime, she's got a late night set up for her because after the concert, she has additional duties with the lighting of the beacons.
SHUBERT: That's right. She's going to light the National Beacon. And this is the last beacon to be lit.
There's more than 4,000 across the world that will be lit, starting in Tonga making it way across the world, across the commonwealth, and then here in the U.K.
And they are an important part of the celebration because it's one of the ways that ordinary members of the public can participate in the celebrations. I spoke to kids at the highest school in Britain here who were so excited to be first to be chosen to light one of the beacons here in the U.K. And they really felt like they were participating in these jubilee celebrations.
And so that's one of the reasons why it has such impact and people feel like they're really a part of the queen's celebrations.
BANFIELD: Well, it's great. It's like the Olympics and a royal wedding all rolled into one big party. It's a lot of fun. And you're lucky to get the assignment, no matter how far you are away from the concert.
Atika, thank you. Appreciate it.
And the celebrations marking 60 years of Queen Elizabeth's reign continue. There you go, diamond jubilee. You can join our Brooke Baldwin and Piers Morgan. They're live from London for a royal extravaganza tomorrow morning. It all kicks off at 9:00 Eastern time. It's been great.
A truck driver showing us just how much damage the sun can do to you. Here's a hint. Take a look at the right side of his face. After 28 years driving a truck, you can see the harmful effects of U.V. coming in that driver's side window.
Also, low humidity and highs in the 90s certainly not helping firefighters in New Mexico. One wildfire has now burned more than 255,000 acres. Just look at the clouds of smoke.
BANFIELD: Yes. So overseas markets never like it when we have a bad jobs report, right? And there's a wildfire right now that is burning bigger than the city of Chicago.
It is time to play "Reporter Roulette."
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BANFIELD: Next on "Reporter Roulette," it is the largest wildfire in New Mexico's history and it has now already burned, are you ready, 380 square miles.
Next on "Reporter Roulette," Chad Myers is in the CNN Weather Center with an update on this.
So, the weather conditions, my guess is that it's hot and it's dry and that's just a rotten, rotten combination.
CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, and windy.
You put all three of those together, you really have a big problem, big fire here in parts of Arizona, another one in New Mexico I could see from the air as I flew back from Vegas over the weekend and another one north of Vegas by a couple hundred miles, all of this now just being engulfed in the winds that we're seeing today.
Some of these winds that are blowing 30 and 40 miles per hour right now will pick up to 50 miles per hour, blowing from the east, the opposite direction of where this wind has been coming from for quite some time. That's some good news as the firefighters get out of the way of those backing -- those back-winds or backing winds.
But also if you don't push the fire line ahead a little bit, that can actually slow the fire's progress and fight it from the other direction. It's a very difficult process when you have winds swirling in mountains and canyons as well.
This is not going to be over any time soon. This weather isn't getting better for days -- Ashleigh.
BANFIELD: Chad, one of the last times we talked -- and don't even ask me when it was because it could have been six months ago, it could have been two months ago -- but there was an issue with a controlled burn that went really awry. Are they talking about controlled burns when the weather is that bad and that hot and dry with those winds?
MYERS: No, really, and you don't really even start backfires when the winds swirl like this.
We lost an airplane and two pilots over the weekend as well in a little Neptune P2V that was dropping Phos-Chek on a fire. That was in New Mexico, the New Mexico area. That -- when you have planes that crash into mountains, you know that these men and women are trying so very hard. They need to get those planes right down to that fire line, right very close to the ground and then drop it.
Otherwise, when it's so dry and windy, everything evaporates before it gets to the ground. And two pilots lost their lives trying to put this fire out.
BANFIELD: Well, they're heroes, without question. Chad, thank you for that. Do appreciate it.
MYERS: You're welcome.
BANFIELD: Up next on "Reporter Roulette," the fascination with this face. This is a trucker. This was published in a medical journal. This man spent 28 years driving his big rig on the road.
See the left side of his face, that would be the side that is closest to his window, and how one side of his face has suffered from all that U.V. coming through that window?
Our medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, joins us.
Elizabeth, when I first saw this, I thought it was a hoax. I thought, it's not possible. He wouldn't have his window down for 28 years. And then I hear the window was up.
We think those windows have a little bit of shading to them, it will protect us from the sun. And it won't. Those UVA rays -- and those are the runs that damage skin like we see here -- those UVA rays come through. And so, after 28 years, it did damage to that one side of his face. And you can see it looks so different from the other side of his face.
BANFIELD: All right, now, granted, I don't spend all of my time out on the open road, like he does but I have been driving for the better part of 30 years as well and I don't wear sunscreen when I get into my car. Is it getting to this?
COHEN: I don't think your face is going to turn into his face. I don't think that's going to him, but ...
BANFIELD: That's a good thing with this job, huh? Man.
COHEN: Right. Exactly. That would be a lot of makeup to cover that up, but ...
BANFIELD: And lighting.
COHEN: That's right. But this is a great reminder that we should all be wearing sunscreen really all the time. I have to say when I wake up in the morning, I wash my face and put on a layer of sunscreen even if I'm just coming to work.
Because I will be outside even if I'm just walking from my car into the CNN center. I'm getting exposed to sun even if it's January and so why not have that layer of sunscreen on? There's no reason not to do it.
BANFIELD: I have an idea for you. Why don't we trade shifts? You can come in at 2:00 a.m.
COHEN: That's true. That's one way of avoiding -- actually, you may never see the sun, so maybe you're an exception.
BANFIELD: No. I'm a hermit. I used to go to school in Canada. I used to go to school when it was dark and I'm used to get out of school when it was dark. I'm like not kidding. I'm Sarah Palin.
BANFIELD: It's a crazy story and a great reminder. It comes in a lot of makeup, too, so people can take heed that they can get their sunscreen there. Elizabeth, nice to see you. Thank you.
COHEN: Good to see you.
BANFIELD: That is our "Reporter Roulette."
The daytime talk radio circuit is getting a former presidential candidate and, oh, yeah, baby, it's going to be good. See that guy on the left? Oh, yeah. He's getting a mike. We'll tell you about it.
BANFIELD: I'm Ashleigh Banfield. If it's interesting, you're about to see it. It's "Rapid Fire." Let's go.
The talk master quieting down. Veteran conservative radio host Neal Boortz says he is retiring and passing the mike-torch to his colleague, Herman Cain, who recently made a Republican run for the president.
Boortz isn't going quietly, though. Check this out.
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NEAL BOORTZ, TALK RADIO HOST: My last day on the air is January the 21st of next year, which is the day we inaugurate a new president.
If it's Barack Obama, then I'm going to disappear into the mountains somewhere and come out after he has completely destroyed this country.
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BANFIELD: Woo boy, those are some words. WSB Radio says Boortz is syndicated on 200 radio stations and that he has 6 million listeners every week.
Attorneys for the man who shot Trayvon Martin want to free him from jail for a second go-round. George Zimmerman's attorney is expected to file a motion today for a new bond hearing.
Zimmerman turned himself in yesterday after a judge pulled his bond. The prosecutors say Zimmerman lied about being broke at his first bond hearing. The defense, though, says that it was fear that kept him from disclosing the money that he raised online and that it's possible he may not have actually known he had access to it.
Jury selection set to begin tomorrow in the child rape case against Jerry Sandusky. That's the former assistant football coach at Penn State who is accused of sexually abusing 10 boys.
The judge ruled today that the accusers who testify in this trial are going to have to use their real names. The judge also says reporters will not be allowed to tweet or use any kind of electronic communication during that live proceeding and the trial.
And have you seen this guy before? Oh, yeah. There he is. Take a good, long look. That's the old Tiger. He is back, baby. At the Memorial Tournament in Ohio, he not only won with a sensational chip off the green late in the final round, but he also tied the golden bear, Jack Nicklaus, his record of 73 PGA tour victories and how sweet it is.
So Wisconsin voters are about to decide whether or not to keep or dump their governor. Republican Scott Walker is facing a recall election after really stripping away a lot of collective bargaining rights for public workers. He faces the Milwaukee mayor named Tom Barrett in tomorrow's special election. That one could be a squeaker.
So do you want to know what life on the campaign trail is really like because tomorrow you can join the CNN election roundtable with Wolf Blitzer and CNN's political team.
You just submit your questions and get answers in real-time. It's a live virtual chat with Wolf Blitzer. A live virtual chat with Wolf Blitzer! You're not going to miss it. I'm going to do it. For crying out loud, I'm going to do it.
So, it's the election roundtable, tomorrow, noon Eastern. Log onto CNN.com/roundtable and get your questions in and get them in often.
An American citizen living in Mexico is detained while trying to come into the U.S. for a visit. Her attorney says that she was coerced to give up her citizenship. She was born here. And they're telling her, get out.
I'm going to talk to that attorney next and find out what the heck went wrong on this one.
BANFIELD: It is no secret that Bill Clinton is going to be important in President Obama's reelection bid. It's also no secret that they don't always see eye-to-eye and that can cause issues.
Watch this from CNN White House correspondent Brianna Keilar.
BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: As President Obama's campaign tries to make a liability of Mitt Romney's past experience as the head of a private equity firm, Bill Clinton, talking recently about Romney on CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight," apparently didn't get the memo.
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: I think he had a good business career. There's no question that in terms of getting up and going to the office and basically performing the essential functions of the office, a man who's been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold.
KEILAR: On the same team as Obama, but reading from a different playbook, Bill Clinton's support is key to the president this election, though their relationship, to put it mildly, has had its ups and downs.
In 2007, Bill Clinton took aim at the then junior senator from Illinois.
B. CLINTON: I'm old fashioned. I think a president ought to have done something for other people and for his country when you pick a president.
KEILAR: President Clinton questioned Obama's inexperience.
B. CLINTON: When's the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running?
KEILAR: In early 2008, Obama won Iowa and entered an all-out feud with the former first couple.
HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm here. He's not.
OBAMA: I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes.
KEILAR: The two men have never been especially close, but appointing Hillary Clinton secretary of state helped heal some wounds.
And since taking office, Obama's looked to the popular former president for helping, hosting him at the White House during contentious negotiations with Congress in 2010.
B. CLINTON: I have a general rule, which is that whatever he asks me about my advice and whatever I say should become public only if he decides to make it public. He can say whatever he wants, but we ...
KEILAR: Obama hopes President Clinton can woo voters in the South and some Rust Belt states. The Obama campaign is featuring Clinton in ads and hitting up his network of wealthy donors. Obama and Clinton appeared at a fund-raiser together last month at the home of longtime supporter, Terry McAuliffe, raising $2.1 million.
Brianna Keilar, CNN, the White House.
BANFIELD: no lawyer, no phone call and I will have your papers, please, now. That's what a woman who was born in the United States was told at the border just before she was sent to Mexico. I'm going to explain this one in a moment.
BANFIELD: Coerced confessions, unlawful imprisonment, certainly things that we assume happens in foreign lands, not here, right?
An American woman says she was victimized exactly that way right here in the United States and she was even forced -- are ready for this -- she was forced to renounce her own United States citizenship.
Her name is Brenda Vasquez. Her attorney says that she was crossing from Matamoros, Mexico, into Texas at the Brownsville International Bridge when things didn't go as planned. She was detained.
She said she showed the agents from the United States Customs and Border Protection her American birth certificate. She says she also showed them her driver's license, proving she was born in Texas.
And she says they took those documents and they detained her for seven hours. They refused to free her until she signed a document, not just any document, a document renouncing her American citizenship. I am not making this stuff up.
She's now filed a federal lawsuit to get her birthright back, her American birthright. Her attorney says it's not the first time this has happened, folks, and he joins me live on the phone now from Brownsville, Texas.
Jaime Diez, thanks for being here with me. First of all, this doesn't sound possible. How on earth could something like this happen?
JAIME DIEZ, ATTORNEY FOR BRENDA VASQUEZ: To me, it's something that's incredible. We've been dealing with these cases for the last three years and this is not the first case.
So it is, to me, frustrating because it shows that for a part of CBP there seems to be no care about these kind of cases. They don't understand what they're doing to people.
We have several other cases. Some of them already got their documents back. And what is frustrating is that the officer of this case that took the papers from this lady is an officer that took away papers two years ago in the same circumstance from two ladies, 25 to 30 years old, and we ...
BANFIELD: What am I missing here? Jaime, what am I missing?
What did they see in her that they thought, something's fishy. I'm going to take her birth certificate and her driver's license. I'm going to detain her for seven hours, hammer away at this.
They wouldn't just grab anybody? What was it that they saw that they weren't so sure about?
DIEZ: What is happening here is they're seeing people that were born with midwives in South Texas and, because South Texas in the past had some problems with midwives that were registering people illegally, there seems to be the presumption that people born with midwives were not born in the United States.
So they use that as a reason to start an investigation, but what is troubling to me is the fact that they do it in a way that there's no way to say to somebody, voluntarily, sign a statement when you put them for seven hours in a room in the other case for 13 hours until they admit what they just admit just in order to get out of there. And that is what is troubling.
BANFIELD: I'm reading about some of the things that she says happened to her when she was being detained. She says for seven hours she was repeatedly threatened. She was told she had no right to an attorney. That ain't right in America. Everybody has a Fifth Amendment right and Miranda rights to an attorney.
She was told that she was browbeaten and asked to sign a document that literally renounced her citizenship. Is this true? Is she truly no longer an American citizen because of the document she signed?
DIEZ: Yes, I think that it's something that, when we go to court, we're going to be able to get a federal judge to issue an order saying that she is a United States citizen.
But it's incredible that it happens that somebody can have that right taken away at a port of entry with no right to an attorney and no opportunity to present any evidence or any evidence against her in this case other than just an officer saying, after I read all your rights and I gave you water -- because that is what they put on the statement -- and I treated you nice, now you're going to admit you were not born in the United States, which is not true in this case and it wasn't true in the United States in the case of the four that we won for those people.
But this continues to happen and I think it happens more often than people think and, as you say, it shouldn't happen in the United States.
BANFIELD: I've got to say. CNN has been reaching out to the Customs and Border Protection for a comment about this. They're not giving us a comment about this.
And I also know that you, Mr. Diez, went to the Texas Health and Human Services to get a copy of her birth certificate, to show them, hey, look, she's American for crying out loud.
I've got a statement from them here. I want to read it for our viewers. "The state has not released a copy of Miss Vasquez's birth certificate because her file has been flagged for possible fraud. This restriction is placed on someone's record when the state has reason to believe that a Texas birth certificate may have been fraudulently obtained."
Again, that was the official statement that was given to us from the Texas Health and Human Services, but as it turns out, you have another way to prove that she was born in the United States whether you get that birth certificate or not. What is it?
DIEZ: I have filed a federal lawsuit against them and I'm going to ask a federal judge to review her case. But it is incredible that somebody has to go through all these hassles to prove that she was born in the United States.
And that is something that CBP has taken away from this lady and has taken away from many other people. And they should stop doing that to people because that is not the way that things are done in the United States.
BANFIELD: But even with the federal lawsuit, there's a simpler way. She's got a twin brother, right?
DIEZ: Correct, yes. And they gave me the twin brother's birth certificate. The information that the Texas Department of Health used to deny her birth certificate was information that was obtained through duress by CBP and they went ahead and submitted it without stating all the facts, without saying to the Texas Department of Health, we detained the lady for 7 hours.
We did not allow her to see an attorney. We threatened her with incarceration unless she accepted something that wasn't true. And instead we submitted a statement that says we treated you nice, that we gave you food, and now you are admitting to all that you were really not born in the United States. Therefore, we are going to deport you and that's what they did. They deported her and they sent her back to Mexico.
BANFIELD: Jaime Diez, good luck with this. I hope you stay in touch with us to keep us up to speed on how this case turns out and whether you end up having to actually go through with the federal lawsuit.
By the way, we reached out to Homeland Security, I just want to let you know, that oversees the Customs and Border Protection and they have just given us a statement, literally, as we were on the air.
"Due to the pending legal action, Customs Border and Protection is unable to comment on the specifics of this case. However, regarding the admissibility of travelers, Customs Border and Protection is under the obligation to establish that citizenship is proper and correct and was issued to the person presenting the documents." So there you have it, the official response, but that doesn't stop the federal suit, not in any way.
And by the way, she's still in Matamoros, Mexico, but her family's there, so she can be with them. She just can't come back and forth like she's always done, hundreds of times, to the United States to visit other family members, to go shopping, et cetera.
Just minutes away now from my friend, Wolf Blitzer, who's working in "The Situation Room" with a lot coming up at the top of the hour. Can you give me a bit of an idea of what you're doing?
WOLF BLITZER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Sure. Daniel Klaidman, the author of a brand new book on President Obama, his decision to go out there and kill terrorists around the world. The book is entitled "Kill or Capture." Dan Klaidman is going to join us here in "The Situation Room," live in the next hour.
And guess what we're going to do in the 5:00 Eastern hour, Ashleigh. You're going to get a kick out of this. Do you have any idea?
BANFIELD: Tell me. I could look it up, but it would take me forever.
BLITZER: Queen Elizabeth II is going to light that final beacon. There are going to be thousands of these beacons that are lit after this huge concert in London and we're going to live coverage of Queen Elizabeth II lighting that beacon.
We'll hear from a lot of other royalty, including our own royalty in London. We're talking about the CNN royalty. That's coming up in the 5:00 p.m. Eastern hour, as well.
BANFIELD: Is that Piers Morgan? Is he now described as royalty?
BLITZER: Sir Piers Morgan is not available, unfortunately. He's probably at one of the concerts having a good time. We'll have Sir Richard Quest. He'll be joining us. We've got a lot of good people coming on.
BANFIELD: Americans like to think of their presidents as royalty and you've got a big interview coming up with former President Clinton this week, right?
BLITZER: Thursday, I'm going to Chicago to the Clinton Global Initiative. I'll sit down with the former president of the United States, always something important to talk about with him. I'm looking forward to doing that once again.
I covered him, as you know, when I was the White House correspondent during the Clinton administration, so there's a long history there. I'm looking forward to having another opportunity to talk about a whole host of issues, including what's going on in the world right now. BANFIELD: Yeah, he's had choice words to say just how the acerbic the debate has become in national politics, so I'm looking forward to it. Thanks, Wolf.
BLITZER: That will be Thursday on "The Situation Room."
BANFIELD: Excellent. Looking forward to your show coming up in six minutes.
An international manhunt ending for a Canadian porn star wanted for allegedly killing a man, dismembering the body and guess what? We have found an interview in which he speaks about the dangers of being in the porn business.
BANFIELD: The man the French press calls "The Butcher of Montreal" says that he's, in fact, more of a people person. CNN uncovered a 2000 interview that Luka Rocco Magnotta did with "Naked News." Here, he talks about his work as an escort and also looking ahead to his life in the future.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's got to be a timeline on being an escort. So what's your plan for the future?
LUKA MAGNOTTA, ACCUSED KILLER: Well, considering I'm only 18, I have only a couple more years in me, so, yeah, you can last as long as, you know, it's a question of supply and demand.
You know, if people like your look, then they're going to call you. If people are attracted to you, then they're going to call you.
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BANFIELD: That's Luka Magnotta, saying he was 19 years old at the time. Not quite. But he talked about his time as a stripper and as an escort. He says he only takes on high-class clientele.
However, listen to what he says about it situations that turn dangerous.
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MAGNOTTA: Some clients, mostly the ones that are on drugs or alcohol, it can get very violent. But I know how to handle myself in that situation.
So, you know, basically, I, you know, I have been around and I know what to say and what not to say to get out of a dangerous situation.
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BANFIELD: Simply remarkable. Magnotta was captured today in Berlin, Canadian authorities confirming he is in custody.
Here's the strange part. He was spotted at an Internet cafe. A worker there seeing him looking at himself online in the Internet cafe, looking at pictures of himself and stories about the international manhunt, Interpol after him for days.
He's charged with first-degree murder in Canada, so the extradition process likely not likely underway, but probably just about to get underway in any case, but he will be headed back to Canada, more than likely, to face those charges.
The Canadian police saying, we have our man.
Wolf Blitzer now with "The Situation Room."
BLITZER: Ashleigh, thanks very much.